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Post by secleveland 2013-01-23, 11:07 am

Thanks snowdog
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Post by Snowfacial 2013-01-23, 11:09 am

Looks like parts of upper east tn and even swva get serious down slopping issues or is that strictly lack of qpf, nam latest

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Post by joereb1 2013-01-23, 11:14 am

So this hillbilly from Florida might see 2 events in a week? I must of brought my hurricane voodoo. I went through Hurricane Andrew in Miami and then when I moved to Orlando, Hurricane Charlie hit us. Whether this is luck or not, bad or good, I don't know? lol. potstir
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Post by snowdog 2013-01-23, 11:23 am

joereb1 wrote:So this hillbilly from Florida might see 2 events in a week? I must of brought my hurricane voodoo. I went through Hurricane Andrew in Miami and then when I moved to Orlando, Hurricane Charlie hit us. Whether this is luck or not, bad or good, I don't know? lol. potstir

I have a rental property here in Nashville you can move into. Rent will be determined by how much snow you bring with you.

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Post by Vanster67 2013-01-23, 12:37 pm

I am seeing alot about freezing rain is this just going to be an ice event for us on the plateau? How bout some snow ole man winter.
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Post by Jed33 2013-01-23, 12:53 pm

WRF definitely bringing the ice in. Look at the simulation at the top left. Geeze. Ice Ice baby

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Post by jmundie 2013-01-23, 2:27 pm

The slower solution from the GFS and Euro today would mean less or no ice for the nashville area proper.

You guys in east tennessee for whatever reason are staying much colder during the day.

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Post by Jed33 2013-01-23, 2:34 pm

Could be due to cold air being trapped in the valley. If that's the case, I don't know how we would get any or much snow at all out of this one. Even, in the Northern Valley. I don't know that much about E TN winter weather, though, as I'm still learning-only my second winter here, and last year was not even close to this one.

Also, may be in relation to the HP moving out of New England. It's effects may be stronger for a longer time here, due to the fact that we are further E.

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Post by VFL 2013-01-23, 2:39 pm

NWS to issue WSW. Per WBIR. Does not say Valley or Mountians, so I'm guessing its both. Watch is for ice and snow.
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Post by ballpark 2013-01-23, 2:53 pm

Vanster67 wrote:I am seeing alot about freezing rain is this just going to be an ice event for us on the plateau? How bout some snow ole man winter.
Vanster the elevation you live at it will most likely be both.Good to see you on here. club

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Post by Grandpa Nasty 2013-01-23, 3:28 pm

If, and I say IF Chatty gets in on some ice for a few hours, the valley areas may do better than say Signal or Lookout Mtns due to the WAA causing a temperature inversion where the mountains stay warmer and valley locations MIGHT hang on with a little trapped cold air.


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Post by AndyP 2013-01-23, 4:08 pm

URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MORRISTOWN TN
403 PM EST WED JAN 23 2013

...WINTER STORM EXPECTED TO IMPACT THE SOUTHERN APPALACHIANS LATE
THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH FRIDAY NIGHT...WITH SIGNIFICANT ICING
POSSIBLE ACROSS MUCH OF THE EAST TENNESSEE VALLEY...

.A STRONG STORM SYSTEM WILL IMPACT THE EAST TENNESSEE VALLEY AND
SOUTHERN APPALACHIANS LATE THURSDAY NIGHT INTO FRIDAY. THE
COMBINATION OF SUBFREEZING SURFACE TEMPERATURES AND ABUNDANT GULF
MOISTURE WILL RESULT IN A LONG DURATION SNOW AND ICE EVENT FOR THE
ENTIRE FORECAST AREA. PRECIPITATION WILL MOVE INTO THE CUMBERLAND
PLATEAU AND SOUTHEAST TENNESSEE LATE THURSDAY NIGHT...AND BECOME
HEAVIER AT TIMES AFTER SUNRISE ON FRIDAY AS IT OVERSPREADS THE
ENTIRE REGION FROM WEST TO EAST. WITH TEMPERATURES ALOFT REMAINING
ABOVE FREEZING FOR MOST OF THE EVENT ACROSS THE EAST TENNESSEE
VALLEY...A LONG DURATION FREEZING RAIN AND SLEET EVENT IS
ANTICIPATED...WITH WIDESPREAD ACCUMULATIONS BETWEEN ONE TENTH TO
ONE QUARTER OF AN INCH OF ICE POSSIBLE. FURTHER TO THE NORTH ACROSS
NORTHEAST TENNESSEE AND SOUTHWEST VIRGINIA ...COLDER AIR WILL BE IN
PLACE WHICH WILL ALLOW FOR AN ALL SNOW EVENT...WITH THE POSSIBILITY
OF SOME SLEET MIXING IN AS WELL IN AREAS THAT APPROACH THE FREEZING
MARK LATER IN THE AFTERNOON. PRECIPITATION WILL GRADUALLY BEGIN TO
TAPER OFF LATE FRIDAY AFTERNOON AND EVENING.

NCZ060-061-TNZ012>018-035>047-067>074-081>087-098>102-VAZ001-002-
005-006-008-241000-
/O.NEW.KMRX.WS.A.0003.130125T0600Z-130126T0000Z/
CHEROKEE-CLAY-SCOTT TN-CAMPBELL-CLAIBORNE-HANCOCK-HAWKINS-
SULLIVAN-JOHNSON-MORGAN-ANDERSON-UNION-GRAINGER-HAMBLEN-
NORTHWEST COCKE-COCKE SMOKY MOUNTAINS-NORTHWEST GREENE-
SOUTHEAST GREENE-WASHINGTON TN-UNICOI-NORTHWEST CARTER-
SOUTHEAST CARTER-ROANE-LOUDON-KNOX-JEFFERSON-NW BLOUNT-
BLOUNT SMOKY MOUNTAINS-NORTH SEVIER-SEVIER SMOKY MOUNTAINS-
SEQUATCHIE-BLEDSOE-RHEA-MEIGS-MCMINN-NORTHWEST MONROE-
SOUTHEAST MONROE-MARION-HAMILTON-BRADLEY-WEST POLK-EAST POLK-LEE-
WISE-SCOTT-RUSSELL-WASHINGTON-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...MURPHY...HAYESVILLE...ONEIDA...
LA FOLLETTE...TAZEWELL...SNEEDVILLE...ROGERSVILLE...KINGSPORT...
BRISTOL...MOUNTAIN CITY...WARTBURG...CLINTON...OAK RIDGE...
MAYNARDVILLE...RUTLEDGE...MORRISTOWN...NEWPORT...COSBY...
GREENEVILLE...CEDAR CREEK...JOHNSON CITY...ERWIN...ELIZABETHTON...
ROAN MOUNTAIN...KINGSTON...LENOIR CITY...KNOXVILLE...DANDRIDGE...
MARYVILLE...CADES COVE...SEVIERVILLE...GATLINBURG...DUNLAP...
PIKEVILLE...DAYTON...DECATUR...ATHENS...MADISONVILLE...
COKER CREEK...JASPER...CHATTANOOGA...CLEVELAND...BENTON...
DUCKTOWN...JONESVILLE...WISE...NORTON...GATE CITY...LEBANON...
ABINGDON
403 PM EST WED JAN 23 2013 /303 PM CST WED JAN 23 2013/

...WINTER STORM WATCH IN EFFECT FROM LATE THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH
FRIDAY EVENING...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN MORRISTOWN HAS ISSUED A WINTER
STORM WATCH...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM LATE THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH
FRIDAY EVENING.

* EVENT...LATE THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH FRIDAY EVENING A WINTRY MIX
OF PRECIPITATION WILL OVERSPREAD THE ENTIRE REGION. MOST OF THE
TENNESSEE VALLEY TO THE SOUTH AND WEST OF MORRISTOWN WILL
EXPERIENCE A MIX OF FREEZING RAIN AND SLEET...WITH LOCATIONS
ACROSS NORTHEAST TENNESSEE AND SOUTHWEST VIRGINIA REMAINING ALL
SNOW OR A MIXTURE OF SNOW AND SLEET.

* TIMING...PRECIPITATION WILL MOVE INTO THE CUMBERLAND PLATEAU AND
SOUTHEAST TENNESSEE LATE THURSDAY NIGHT AND OVERSPREAD THE ENTIRE
REGION FRIDAY MORNING AND AFTERNOON...BEFORE TAPERING OFF BY
FRIDAY EVENING.

* IMPACTS...SIGNIFICANT ICING AND HEAVY SNOWFALL WILL CREATE
EXTREMELY HAZARDOUS DRIVING CONDITIONS EARLY FRIDAY MORNING
THROUGH FRIDAY NIGHT. ACCUMULATING ICE AND SNOW MAY PULL DOWN
TREES AND POWER LINES IN SOME AREAS. LOCALIZED TO WIDESPREAD
POWER OUTAGES ARE POSSIBLE.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A WINTER STORM WATCH MEANS THERE IS A POTENTIAL FOR SIGNIFICANT
SNOW...SLEET...AND/OR ICE ACCUMULATIONS. FUTURE DRIVING
CONDITIONS MAY BECOME HAZARDOUS...SO CONTINUE TO MONITOR THE
LATEST FORECASTS.
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Post by AndyP 2013-01-23, 4:12 pm

I know that is alot of reading above, but I thought you guys would like to have it all here. Pretty interesting wording to me! Especially the "significant icing and heavy snowfall" wording.
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Post by tom23 2013-01-23, 4:31 pm

AndyP wrote:I know that is alot of reading above, but I thought you guys would like to have it all here. Pretty interesting wording to me! Especially the "significant icing and heavy snowfall" wording.

Andy, your post is excellent. It brings an update to the thread regarding the info, so it is very much appreciated, especially to members/guests who do not bother to look at the NWS website for their region. So thanks again!

I must say that I have not been following this system much at all. With joining a workout/health gym with my cousin and going there every night, to schoolwork and a job, I have not had time to pay much attention to the system at hand. However, it looks like this system is going to be borderline, as with all systems of this nature, and as with the system we had just last week. Keep up-to-date with us, and with your local Mets, and with your region's NWS for the very latest regarding the potential of this system.

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Post by 1234snow 2013-01-23, 4:43 pm

Snowfacial wrote:Looks like parts of upper east tn and even swva get serious down slopping issues or is that strictly lack of qpf, nam latest

There shouldn't be any downsloping issues for anybody west of the mountains with a southwest flow aloft. Maybe in the valley there could be some downsloping but it shouldn't be notable. There isn't that much QPF to work with and the Gulf will likely not be tapped. Any further south trend with this vort max and I would expect precip amounts to increase some, but that could pull in more warm air aloft. This is a tight rope situation as is just about every event we go through. Latest NAM has .50-.75 for Nashville east.

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Post by John1122 2013-01-23, 4:45 pm

I've not had time to look at models at all today. As of this morning the Euro was showing 2-4 inches of snow North of 40 as 850s were cooperating. The NAM and GFS were showing major ice, especially South. At one point during what it was showing on the snowfall maps as heavy snow over Southern Tennessee the sounding showed 800-850 temps in the low 40s with surface temps in the upper 20s.

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Post by 1234snow 2013-01-23, 4:50 pm

jmundie wrote:The slower solution from the GFS and Euro today would mean less or no ice for the nashville area proper.

You guys in east tennessee for whatever reason are staying much colder during the day.

In East TN low level winds would be coming out of the northeast which will help to lock in the cold air longer. The precip needs to come quicker for Nashville on Friday morning and that would help with more wintry precip. I think from Knoxville on up to the north/northeast should stay all snow with minimal mixing. Further south and west this could be a very bad ice/sleet storm, not good at all.

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Post by OakRidgeWeatherGuy 2013-01-23, 4:54 pm

Snow and ice are back in the forecast for East Tennessee, and our Friday could be a very messy one!

The National Weather Service has issued a Winter Storm Watch for most of the area, starting late Thursday night into Friday evening.

Chief Meteorologist Todd Howell is watching this system closely, and as is always the case in East Tennessee, the forecast could change, but here's what he is expecting as of Wednesday afternoon.

In the overnight hours Thursday into Friday, snow and sleet could start changing to freezing rain, creating dangerous driving conditions for the morning commute. When this could happen depends on where you live, and the temperature:

For the southern valley and southern plateau (McMinn, Monroe, Loudon, Rhea, Meigs, Roane, Cumberland), 1/2 inch of ice accumulation is possible, starting between 5-7 am.

For the central valley, rest of the plateau, mountains (Knox, Sevier, Blount, Anderson, Scott, Campbell, Morgan, Fentress, Union), up to 1/2 inch of ice accumulation is possible, starting between 7-9 am.

For upper East Tennessee (Hamblen, Greene, Grainger, Jefferson, Claiborne, Cocke, Hancock, Hawkins), 2-4 inches of snow is possible starting Friday morning.

This forecast, and whether you get ice or snow where you live, is heavily dependent on where the "freezing line" is, and that could change before Friday and even during the day.

The freezing rain and snow could continue throughout the day on Friday, ending in more snow showers. All the precipitation is expected to be out of the area by 8:00 pm on Friday.

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Post by VFL 2013-01-23, 6:04 pm

Does anyone think a NE wind will hold back the WAA longer than predicted?
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Post by John1122 2013-01-23, 6:10 pm

The NE wind will be at the surface. The winds above 850 are from the SW.

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Post by VFL 2013-01-23, 7:12 pm

ballpark wrote:Color full Model

I not fully understanding this map. He thinks there is going to be a dab of snow on the GA/FL coast line?
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Post by SEMonroeWx 2013-01-23, 7:19 pm

This is not looking very good for my area, southern Monroe Co. With the heaviest precip being modeled over the area, this could be a very devastating ice storm here.

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Post by joereb1 2013-01-23, 7:34 pm

snowdog wrote:
joereb1 wrote:So this hillbilly from Florida might see 2 events in a week? I must of brought my hurricane voodoo. I went through Hurricane Andrew in Miami and then when I moved to Orlando, Hurricane Charlie hit us. Whether this is luck or not, bad or good, I don't know? lol. potstir

I have a rental property here in Nashville you can move into. Rent will be determined by how much snow you bring with you.

Lol, I have to be careful what I wish for cheers
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