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Post by Jed33 2015-02-07, 8:10 pm

18z GFS is dropping the hammer on temps starting next week all the way to the end of the run. Couple minor snow threats here and there, but some highs in the single digits and teens and subzero lows showing up. Extreme to say the least

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Post by windstorm 2015-02-07, 8:13 pm

we talking in the NE or farther south. thanks
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Post by Jed33 2015-02-08, 7:19 am

The 18z had brutal temps across the entire eastern half of the U.S. Had highs in the single digits here and around 10 in Chattanooga on the coldest day with subzero at night. Not likely to happen in mid February for sure. 0z and 6z were not as cold. 0z had some close calls on snow. 6z had a bomb between 252-276 for the whole state. Euro was cold but lost it's 12z storm. So back to model chaos.

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Post by windstorm 2015-02-08, 9:34 am

Thanks. We have had temps down to 7 or 8 this winter so far. Airport had 9. I have two weather station and on that cold morning one was reading 7.2 and the other 8. But anyway, wonder if this is going to be another fail miss like the rest of the winter? The way it been going the GFS giveth and taketh away. We all seen it happen many times. I am hoping that these model runs do get there act together and we do get some decent winter weather before all is said and done. I look at the GFS this morning and like you said it has pull back on the cold also. But does show cold and maybe snow around the 18th time frame give or take a day or two. But GFS is notorious for showing one thing and then backing off, and to bring it back again.I was going to quiet taking nerve pills but, I guess I will have to double up here in the next week or two. If I was a weatherman, I would have already pitch my PC out the window many times this year. I know you can't go on a run or two, but man it been awful this year. Never seen nothing like it. Thanks. Still there will be plenty of cold in the NE, that where the cold air is this year. When you have such a high blocking out west it tends not to let the jet stream dig way far south. And sides more North of us. Hoping the runs will change. Time is running out. Thanks again.
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Post by Jed33 2015-02-08, 9:11 pm

Robert at weather south has a great analysis on facebook of why this winter hasn't worked out and why the models keep failing. It is pretty detailed, but realistic. If you want snow and ice down here in the Tennessee Valley though, you probably won't like his forecast, as he doesn't see this pattern changing anytime soon. I'm inclined to say I agree with him.

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Post by etnwx 2015-02-08, 9:33 pm

Screw it! Worst winter in recent memory. Ready for Spring, and I hope it's not boring either.
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Post by Jed33 2015-02-08, 9:54 pm

Yeah it's pretty bad, guess we will have to be happy with our few minor accums and dustings we have had here in Nov and Jan. We could also relive last year and hope for a better next year. It's just really hard for me to write off the rest of the winter; however, what he said makes sense, because it has been the case , and even as of today, continues to be the case. The models keep bringing a snowy pattern only to see it fall apart. Why would it change now? Why after a whole winter would it change? It could, but why would it. I've been fooled into believing it would change just like everyone else. I think I wish casted it into coming about, but I learned a lot from this winter. I'm jut going to sit back and take what comes with a smile. After all, it is just a bunch of ice on the ground. Haha, hardly worth getting angry over.

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Post by Jscentraltn 2015-02-09, 12:11 pm

Hey guys!!!! I hadn't posted in awhile, work has been crazy 14-16 hr days...... But I don't think winter is over! The cold is coming back..... The models have sucked, so the flip flop continues, we can't go by run to run, as I do sometimes and pull my hair out, but I think our snow chances do increase over the next 3 week period. If we don't get any within that window, I'm done and will move on into severe weather season!!!
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Post by Jscentraltn 2015-02-09, 12:42 pm

Looking at the 51 members off of the euro for the possibility of a storm next tue-wed time frame... There are a lot of diffrent placements of this low too the nw of us and they are se of us so therefore nothing is clear, but for fun! one of them will be right, so I picked this one Very Happy
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Post by Jed33 2015-02-09, 1:14 pm

I would take that track and run with it to the bank! That's perfect for east and parts of middle TN

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Post by Neals 2015-02-09, 4:18 pm

Agree. Cold and a low in that spot. Priceless. cheers

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Post by Toot 2015-02-10, 8:01 am

Morning run of GFS coming in with a nice one..lol

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Post by Jed33 2015-02-10, 8:41 am

Actually got a steady snow here this AM for the last 20min or so.

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Post by Toot 2015-02-10, 8:51 am

I love the way MRX describes what is probably the strongest outbreak of arctic air this whole winter...lol

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OTHER THAN TO KEEP THE COLD ADVECTION PATTERN IN PLACE.
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Post by Jscentraltn 2015-02-10, 9:17 am

Yep! Only if tomorrow was the day of the event Smile ....
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Post by Jed33 2015-02-10, 9:50 am

Lol Yeah MRX not too gung ho about the arctic air. Just kinda like. Yeah, it's winter. It gets cold in the winter, nothing to see here. You know what to do, move on along.

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Post by Jscentraltn 2015-02-10, 11:58 am

Say it isn't so 2 runs in row! The 12z gfs even stronger.... After all it is a week away! But here you go...
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Post by Jscentraltn 2015-02-10, 12:01 pm

As you can see it pulls that warm nose right up Into se tn.. Within the next 2 to 3 weeks, I think we will have a real threat around here! Very Happy
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Post by Jscentraltn 2015-02-10, 12:13 pm

Just a quick note before I run, looked at the 12z Canadian (gem). It has the same storm but looks a little diffrent it has rain ahead of the artic front then as it passes though it stalls and a wave develops along it,then we get our snow!!!! I'll post some images of it later..
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Post by ashleyj89 2015-02-10, 1:40 pm

I am new here and don't know much about reading models though I know it's way to early to know what's going to happen I would like your guys input. I am leaving for Gatlinburg next Tuesday and the cabin we will be in is up on the mountain so can you tell me as of right now what it looks like for snow there next week because I am kinda nervous!

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Post by Jscentraltn 2015-02-10, 3:37 pm

Nice to have you here! We will update often, its best to keep checking back. I will say the models are in good agreement, which is odd for them all to be about the same this far out, with the way they have preformed this winter.... The gfs and euro are real close and the Canadian is a little further north with the heavy snow... As you stated it is hard to say right now, with it a week away a lot could change, so it could be just wet or all white Very Happy .. Here is the euro...
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Post by Jscentraltn 2015-02-10, 3:44 pm

With that map of the euro, as of right now your looking at 8 to 12 inches of snow...
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Post by windstorm 2015-02-10, 4:45 pm

Looks good for me to. Maybe a 5 to 8. Wish one of them would come true.
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Post by snowman72 2015-02-10, 6:47 pm

It's nice to hear no matter which station, website, or model you look at next week's system looks like it might be very good.

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Post by Jed33 2015-02-10, 7:42 pm

Love the 12z suite of models. Did not like 18z GFS at all. Of course the euro and cmc don't run at 18z. There is potential, but we need to hope the euro is right, and maybe trends colder. 18z GFS went way north.

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